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« on: November 29, 2011, 10:01:13 AM »

Topic name explains it . -.



My German class annoys me. The teacher sets us on a topic we don't know anything about... and then gives us 15 minutes to look up 30 words in a German dictionary that has at least 4 different possibilities (at the very least) for each word (not to mention half of us are mentally blonde when it comes to looking stuff up in a dictionary). We constantly take notes (The topics seem just... spastic and out of nowhere.), and then only spend one class-period on anything she brings up. It's all so #@?$&^! confusing! The teacher is really sweet. She is. It's just her teaching methods are... lacking. We all "try so hard" to learn this, but the way she teaches just makes it virtually impossible. We learn words.... but we don't know how to put them in a sentence, we don't know how to tell the difference between slang and normal speech until we get in trouble for saying it, and when she gives us directions, they're hard to understand... The only plus is it's basically a free hour to do things for other classes or just sleep/read/socialize/draw. It needs to be more like JROTC. We wouldn't have the whole failing problem if she drilled it into our heads.

It's no freaking wonder we all fail the friggin quizzes and tests. For us nerds, getting a low grade on something we thought we had down is just.... degrading. Oh wait. We didn't even learn it. (Thanks a lot! <3) I have a feeling I'm going back to Spanish next year. I grew up 45 minutes from the border. Spanish isn't that hard. Cripes. I feel like I'm being ripped off. e. o'' I honestly want to move to Europe, but to be honest... Not learning correct German is killing my already slim chances of getting to Berlin. London is my second choice, but that looks like where I'll end up if I even get over there.

Bleh. Just... bleh.

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« Reply #1 on: November 29, 2011, 10:10:51 AM »

Repetition and application is the best way to learn something.
We do that in science and everyone is passing the vocabulary portions of science, at the very least.
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« Reply #2 on: November 29, 2011, 12:16:42 PM »

Foreign language teachers are apparently fairly rare, seeing the low standards they set for them. Both of my older sisters took 3 years of Spanish, and in just 9 weeks I already know more then they ever learned in their "classes," by which I mean "translating phrases with a Spanish-English dictionary with absolutely no instruction or teaching of any kind."

And Spanish is an easy language, so I can't imagine how bad it must be for German. My advice: transfer to a better teacher, if possible. If not, and the repetition/application doesn't help any, try and get your foreign language credits elsewhere. You can always take German in college or on the side or whatever.
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« Reply #3 on: November 29, 2011, 12:32:31 PM »

Foreign language is taught hilariously poorly in the entire United States because we're America and everywhere needs to speak English or prepare to get dick whipped. Seriously I think that's the reason.

If you want to actually learn a foreign language, make some online friends, tell them how you want to learn to speak their language, and start learning from them. The benefits of this are:

1. You aren't in some kind of graded environment where you feel rushed to learn the shit.
2. You aren't learning the most proper "I'm going to go talk to the king of this country" vernacular, it's going to be exactly how the speak it in that country. (Best example is the Nosotros/Vosotros case in Spanish)

If you want to do other things, try watching animu with foreign subs, change the language in your video games to whatever language you want to try to learn, or google translate sites into another language (but it'll be broken as fuck so never talk like that ever).
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« Reply #4 on: November 29, 2011, 04:42:19 PM »

It's all so #@?$&^! confusing!

You can swear here.

It's not like you have to be super-edgy 1985 Crimson Chin or anything.
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« Reply #5 on: November 29, 2011, 11:41:05 PM »

I actually learn best in the "A means B" method.  Granted, that doesn't mean it works particularly well, as I take the same approach to more complex languages (C++, for example).

For the longest time I didn't know how to properly use "well" and "good," and it took even longer to sort out "affect" and "effect."  Of course, no one knew to simply tell me, "'well' is an adverb and 'good' is an adjective" or "'affect' is a verb and 'effect' is a noun," which would've solved that problem straight away.  I still don't know how to properly use "whom," but I'm becoming suspicious that it's a similar case of people leaving out the simple definitions of them.
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« Reply #6 on: November 29, 2011, 11:54:17 PM »

It's not like you have to be super-edgy 1985 Crimson Chin or anything.



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« Reply #7 on: November 30, 2011, 03:11:06 PM »

I still don't know how to properly use "whom," but I'm becoming suspicious that it's a similar case of people leaving out the simple definitions of them.

Who is used for nominative case, whom is used for objective case. And now you know.
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« Reply #8 on: November 30, 2011, 03:13:17 PM »

Topic name explains it . -.



My German class annoys me. The teacher sets us on a topic we don't know anything about... and then gives us 15 minutes to look up 30 words in a German dictionary that has at least 4 different possibilities (at the very least) for each word (not to mention half of us are mentally blonde when it comes to looking stuff up in a dictionary). We constantly take notes (The topics seem just... spastic and out of nowhere.), and then only spend one class-period on anything she brings up. It's all so #@?$&^! confusing! The teacher is really sweet. She is. It's just her teaching methods are... lacking. We all "try so hard" to learn this, but the way she teaches just makes it virtually impossible. We learn words.... but we don't know how to put them in a sentence, we don't know how to tell the difference between slang and normal speech until we get in trouble for saying it, and when she gives us directions, they're hard to understand... The only plus is it's basically a free hour to do things for other classes or just sleep/read/socialize/draw. It needs to be more like JROTC. We wouldn't have the whole failing problem if she drilled it into our heads.

It's no freaking wonder we all fail the friggin quizzes and tests. For us nerds, getting a low grade on something we thought we had down is just.... degrading. Oh wait. We didn't even learn it. (Thanks a lot! <3) I have a feeling I'm going back to Spanish next year. I grew up 45 minutes from the border. Spanish isn't that hard. Cripes. I feel like I'm being ripped off. e. o'' I honestly want to move to Europe, but to be honest... Not learning correct German is killing my already slim chances of getting to Berlin. London is my second choice, but that looks like where I'll end up if I even get over there.

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« Reply #9 on: December 01, 2011, 08:01:12 AM »

I thought I'd pop in to this topic because I too study German nowadays and have learned multiple languages over my so far short life.

But wait what.
I still don't know how to properly use "whom," but I'm becoming suspicious that it's a similar case of people leaving out the simple definitions of them.

Who is used for nominative case, whom is used for objective case. And now you know.
ok i don't know wtf you just said bro...

As for german, hard language to learn to speak properly. I speak it properly and fluently but suck at it's grammar, my mother learned german from living there 5 years as my sister was born and my father was studying in the Munich university, and I learned it because I lived in germany five years (11 years after my parents came back with my then baby sister) and learned it from friends at school, TV shows and the street, literally, as in, going into stores occassionally and talking to the people there. That was when I was a young hipster!

Point is, My entire family is capable of speaking german perfectly well (but not perfect german) and none of us learned any of it from school. Granted, I was in school in germany and DID learn some, but I did NOT learn how to speak it because of that.

'SO HAI LARN HAO U SPEKK ENGLIS SA WALL ALSO U 4GET CAPSLACK'

I do not forget to capitalize letters I am simply a lazy cunt thank you quite a bit much. As for your question, I learned that almost as much from friends as I did German, the difference is my school was an American international school, so I spoke a lot of it, in addition to having 2 Hebrew friends which taught me and helped translate me a lot. But this isn't it, I also learned English by watching English movies as a toddler.

'wat u men u watchen language u no undrstnd as toddler durr'

Stop speaking like a dumbass. As for your question, I literally watched all those childhood disney films- in English. I HATED my father for it, he never bought me any films in hebrew and I never understood Jack shit.


BUT HERE I AM TODAY SPEAKING BETTER ENGLISH THAN APPROXIMATELY 99% OF THE NATION.

I am a condescending piece of shit though!

Hope any of this put your mind at ease and/or taught you how to teach your rabies I mean babies how to learn other languages.
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« Reply #10 on: December 01, 2011, 05:04:29 PM »

Lock the TV on foreign language channels after teaching them some.

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« Reply #11 on: December 02, 2011, 02:06:28 AM »

How did you know exactly what I was going to ask and how I was going to ask it? 0_o
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